Speaker 1 (00:10)
Welcome to the Athletes in Motion Pub to Recovery with your hosts, Tom Riegel and Kenny Bailey.

Speaker 2 (00:13)
from race.

Hey Kenny, how you doing? I'm fantastic as well. We have another great episode here. It's just us this time. Yep. Figured we'd talk about a couple of things. But first of all, let's get some business out of the way. ⁓ Leave some reviews five stars thumbs up give us all of that great feedback keep sending in some emails. I think we accept text messages on our Buzz Buzzsprout. Well, there you go. So you can also text into keep that up. We really appreciate all your listening.

Speaker 1 (00:30)
I'm doing fantastic, Tom, how are you?

Speaker 2 (00:59)
⁓ And sharing it and that gets the algorithms up and gets it out to more people. So we're doing okay. We're on I don't know episode 78 79 somewhere in there you're Having fun. We really appreciate you ⁓ So today ⁓ and we have some great guests coming up to coming up in the next couple of weeks ⁓ lots of content this year ⁓ Situational awareness. This is something that is probably if you've worked with me ⁓

Speaker 1 (01:07)
and

Speaker 2 (01:29)
You know that it's probably one of the top things that I won't say drives me crazy, but it's, it's, I get up my soap box about social, I should wear situational awareness. It's easy for me to say, not easy to do. And the, the, the thing that it comes up right now, it brought it to my attention yet again, ⁓ is as we're going into race weekend. we're going into this weekend for, for a lot of folks to racing here locally, it's Chattanooga 70.3.

Speaker 1 (01:40)
easy to do.

Speaker 2 (01:56)
⁓ so dealing, talking with athletes, ⁓ about going into transitions, not just transitions, but going into the aid stations, especially on the bike. And this is where it all kind of stemmed from. And so, so, so situational awareness is just that is being aware of your surroundings while you're there. It's something you can do. I think it's a life skill.

Speaker 1 (02:17)
Yeah, and I really do. Yeah. to kind of put a bigger term on it, right, the the notion is, you you stop at an aid station, a lot of people are hyper focused on, you know, I've got to get my time, I got to my fuel, what am I going to do? You know, am I my head or am I behind? And then they pull over to an aid station, one, they don't pull over all the way. Yeah. And then two, when they go to leave, they

Speaker 2 (02:41)
They just cut

out into traffic.

Speaker 1 (02:43)
Yeah, meanwhile, there's, know, a bunch of people ripping by it. Yeah, 20 plus miles an hour. And that's and that leads to a very dangerous situation. Yes. Even like at the beginning of the bike stage where people are trying to figure out how to get their garment turned on on their bike. They're weaving all over the place.

Speaker 2 (03:01)
Let's go right you get out of the swim. Yeah, right you get into transition You're ripping your wetsuit off if you're in a wetsuit legal, you're throwing it wherever yep Stripping it off and like if you don't get the benefit of having a wetsuit stripper at the end of the the swim So then you get on your bike and you get out to the mountain line. Yeah first first big area of

Craziness. Yeah, is that everyone thinks you have to go to the mountain line cross it and stop right there. Yep Not paying attention to anybody that's around you. Yeah people coming up behind you everything So I always tell everyone run past run past the craziness go out and over get out of your way But look around you It's that that's that situational awareness of knowing who's around you as you're coming to that line And I know we've got a lot going on especially first timers

maybe maybe it's because I've done so many things that it's slightly easier. ⁓ But I mean, you experienced the same thing, right?

Speaker 1 (04:01)
mean, the hardest part is definitely, know, it's a bike is probably the most dangerous, right? I mean, in the water, you know, you get slapped around a little bit, it'd be nice, know, situation awareness is kind of a little bit more difficult in the water. That's a little tricky. You know, but definitely on the bike is kind of the crux of the whole thing, right? It's, it's ⁓ it's, that's the point where, you know, you, you can wind up in an ambulance if it's not done correctly.

Speaker 2 (04:26)
Totally,

yeah. So you could take somebody else out or you could get taken out.

Speaker 1 (04:29)
And what makes it even worse is when you're on a an active road where they put a cone on the center of the road where cars are coming the other direction. If you're weaving, trying to either get your water bottle or, you know, trying to correct something or you kind of pop out, the reaction immediately is to try to avert that. And that could, you know, you can come into oncoming traffic. So this is a non-trivial kind of thing. It's nobody wants to wind up in a hospital. Nobody wants to wind up on the ground. ⁓

It's a it's it's something where it's so easily solved. This is what cracks me up. This isn't uh This isn't like I gotta go learn a skill. It's like I got to turn my head. Yeah. Yeah I mean, it's like why would you do that? You don't do that in a car. You don't do that. Well, some people do But most people don't do most car and it's the exact same thing except this time you're wearing lycra and there's you concrete right there, so That's the part that's that's scary it's it's that and

Speaker 2 (05:13)
it ⁓

Speaker 1 (05:27)
As a person going through, know, if you're going to skip the aid station, that's great. If that's, know, you don't need it. awesome. Right. Yeah. You know, and that's, there's some level of, ⁓ participation on that person as well as not to go, you know, maybe 30 through that aid station is not what you need to do in your PR. Yeah. Right.

Speaker 2 (05:43)
You're not gonna gain that much for that that short little stretch. That's that's happening there You just stay left make sure you shout out that you're on the left Yeah, although most people don't realize what side left is yeah as they do that. That's part of it I mean the the age they if you're doing an Ironman race there their athlete guide is great about Laying out what the aid station is gonna look like for the bike

What color shirts they're going to be wearing. Yeah, what's in what what's coming up first? Yeah, you know, you're gonna get the Morton. You're gonna get the electrolyte You're gonna get the whatever all in that and water and you're get all of that in line So as you're coming up, you know, the aid stations coming up, it doesn't just magically appear on you So you've got an idea that it's coming up at that point That's where you have to take them take take pay attention to what you have what bottles you're gonna discard what you're gonna pick up Who's around you at that time?

And certainly if you're a faster athlete and you're coming up on somebody you need to be aware of that I mean that's your responsibility if you're coming up on somebody now if they break check you that's a different story, right? But you have to be prepared for that So the idea is that you're gonna let people know that you're coming up behind them I always tell everyone like when you get there you want a specific item start yelling it out. Yeah They're absolutely I mean that really helps the volunteers because they'll tell you no

It's down further down further down further that way you didn't miss it. Like I want I want Morton with caffeine. I caffeine, right? They'll they'll they've got the two packets. They'll give you the right one. So

Speaker 1 (07:20)
Yeah, and that's a great point. I mean, they're the volunteers are there to help. yeah. And so let them know what you need help with. Like, hey, yeah, Gatorade. that's down here. Gatorade is down there. That way it keeps that traffic flow keeps the flow. It's just sort of what cracks me up is the people that just just like, stop.

You know just stop. It's like whoa, you know, mean there's there's a bunch of people, know the whole table You don't stop at the front of the table. mean find a spot that makes sense, you know go around people Yeah, exactly. But and that happens on the run too where people will stop at the beginning of a water station Let's stop and there's like hey, there's people behind you. So just I think that's the thing. It's It's difficult to get out of that. I Do a lot of training individually, right? I'm on my own. I'm by myself. Yeah ⁓

But when you get out in the crowd and you're trying to do that, I mean, it's like anything else. We just need to be able to look around, understand what's going on. ⁓ Practice it in the grocery store, please. ⁓

Speaker 2 (08:16)
at Costco, right? you get to...

Speaker 1 (08:18)
I'm asking you

like when you go to Costco, stop. Don't stop in the middle of the aisle. Please stop.

Speaker 2 (08:22)
I

like the ones that actually will take the cart, push it off to the side in front of you while they walk the opposite direction to go get whatever free food they were going to get.

Speaker 1 (08:30)
there's a people at the aid station that are like stop yeah what my bike sideways yeah

Speaker 2 (08:35)
Look

at who's coming and that's where I say it's a life skill. It's like practice it in the grocery store, practice it when you're out anywhere. I'm sure the female athletes are a little bit more aware of it because they're very sensitive to who's around, what's out there while they're out training, especially by themselves. So this is a life skill for everybody to just be aware of.

what's around, you want to look for exits, want to, know, emergency situations, you want to have a little better idea of where you're actually at, which is hard to do when we're so zoned in on our race.

Speaker 1 (09:08)
Yeah, and I think the challenge can be sometimes too is when you spend a lot of time riding, ⁓ it's important to understand your bike handling skills as you start and stop, right? And that's probably where ⁓ you're going 18 miles an hour, 20 miles an hour, 15 miles an hour, whatever, and someone says on the left, most people are kind of used to, okay, they're on the left, like keep to the right, everything's good. It's that.

practicing sort of how to do a nice, know, stay in your lane, right? How to kind of continue to get on your bike in a kind of an efficient sort of way, be able to ⁓ move on your bike.

In an efficient sort of way so you're you need to practice just bike handling skills at low speed. Yes You know, yeah, I can clip in nicely. I'm not moving all over the place I'm not you know doing those things to your point, know that that 300 feet and rather not your garments on or off isn't going to determine whether or not it's gonna be accurate on your on your bike Yeah, just you know take time. I know my first triathlon

⁓ Just because I'm not an expert on this, right? My first triathlon scared. ⁓ my gosh, get out the water, I get on my bike, I did the exact same thing. Everything I said not to do I was doing, which is got on my bike and I thought I have to hit my Garmin now. And ⁓ I start going into a ditch because it was like, it was shallow ditch. And I'm like, I got decent bike handling skills, but I'm so like, okay, you do it now, gotta do it now. So I understand the adrenaline's hitting and you're trying to do all that. ⁓

And then the Garmin actually dropped off my bike because I hit a bump. And then I'm like an idiot. I'm like, wait, I'm racing. I can't stop and grab my Garmin. So I just left and think I could just go pick it up when I get back. That's how stupid I was on this thing. I go, I can't stop. That's going to affect my time. I was going to get on the podium. But it was just some crazy kind of notion. And I think the big lesson there was just slow down. Everything doesn't have to happen right at that line. practice those bike handling skills. Make sure that you know.

how to kind of handle stuff at low speed.

Speaker 2 (11:13)
And the

bike is easier to handle when it's moving forward. if you get on, if you get past that mount line and you get on the bike at that point, but you're not moving forward, you're going to tip over. mean, you're just like, or swerve violently. So the idea is practice getting on and off, like starting it, starting and stopping because it's a matter of stepping forward.

getting your foot clicked in, pushing the pedal back, pushing off, getting some momentum, then you can get on the bike, clip the other shoe in and start going. mean, that's, ⁓ if you're doing the, having your shoe, if you're really good and you're having your shoes clipped on already on there, then you're just pushing down on the top of them, but you have to push off to get the bike rolling. ⁓ My favorite, one of my favorite settings is, ⁓ see if I can actually get it right today, is, ⁓

What is it? Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. That's the thinking. In this panic mode, a frantic thing, we're not going any faster than if we just stop, settle down and go smoothly through it. Smoothly through it will keep you that way. that's, we should get t-shirts with that on. But that's ⁓ part of what you need. That's what you need to be thinking of, this frantic stress mode that we're in. It's being a little bit more aware of your surroundings.

and going through the process that way of just being aware.

Speaker 1 (12:40)
Yeah, and I think the the other aspect of his predictability, right? And I think that's that's a part where people get in trouble is when you do kind of crazy Ivans, you know, for an October fans out there showing my age. That's the idea of like ⁓ most. Athletes and most people in races expect other people to do just what you said, hey, I'm going to get on, I'm going to kind of scooch forward, you know, do those. It's those unpredictable moves and unpredictability. Yes, where?

It's like, I mean, I've seen some people that went too far. You know, the water was, I think it was water first and then Gatorade. I forgot which order, but they would be at the wrong table. And they're like, and then they would try to spin their bike around. And it's like, what? You know, just that kind of unpredictability is what causes the chaos. And it's, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:21)
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (13:30)
Like I said, go in cleanly, try to figure out what you need and efficiently to your point. Slow, smooth, smooth is fast. And then you just kind of scooch forward. If nine times out of 10, what happens is it's somebody that just doesn't know how to handle the bike or they're just unpredictable or they think they have greater. ⁓

skilled and they do I saw a guy thought he could do a hot handoff where you can ride through grab the bottle and not get off his bike and end up just mouse trapping himself because he's you can clearly tell he has a practice it but it looked really cool on on the pros yeah and so hung on to it and just literally just hit the deck

Speaker 2 (14:07)
how many pros

drop those bottles because they're coming through at such a high speed. Slow down a little bit. Grab that bottle. It is not easy. Practice it. Have somebody stand out there with a bottle. Come by and see how difficult that is. They're not allowed to run with you. If they could run with you, it would be great. But then there's more cyclists coming. So they have to just hold the bottle out there. And you need to be able to grab it. It's going to have condensation on the outside of it. It's going to be slippery. You're going to grab it because they're popped the top.

over it and you're gonna squeeze it it's gonna collapse in your hand the water is gonna come shooting straight up and you're gonna be like ⁓

Speaker 1 (14:43)
Yeah, if you haven't practiced it, know, not the race isn't the time to do it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:46)
Definitely not the time. They

slow down a little bit more, but once again, be aware of who's around you and get over to the right. And it's scary for the volunteers as well. mean, it scares them.

Speaker 1 (14:58)
crap

at it. Well, and they have a sense of responsibility. Imagine that poor volunteer hanging onto the bottle. And then you you know, you hit the deck right in front of him. You're like, Oh, my gosh, did I do that? It's like, well, no, the guy grabbed the bottle too hard. Yeah, have goodbye, kandlin skills. Yeah, thought he would look really cool and grabbed

Speaker 2 (15:12)
a whole bunch of front brake because you're grabbing front brake as your right hand is coming out to grab stuff and all of sudden you throw yourself over.

Speaker 1 (15:19)
haven't

practiced it don't do it just do that so yeah

Speaker 2 (15:24)
It takes a little getting used to, but it's all doable. It's just slowing down.

Speaker 1 (15:29)
Yeah,

and don't be if I mean low speed kind of keep practicing that stuff know how to get your water bottle out of your cage without without Yeah, Zippy do it on around. know make sure you have a logical way can look down at your Garmin if you need, know get to know your Your or whatever you use for your bike computer, you know know what that is if you're have a bike computer that you're not you know kind of trying to stare down for multiple seconds at a time and

Speaker 2 (15:52)
Yeah, keep looking down the road.

Speaker 1 (15:53)
And if it's

screwed up or something's going on when you get to the next aid station, that's a good time to do it. It's going to take you an extra 30 seconds, but who cares? Right. You're trying to finish the race nice. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:02)
If you do need to pull off...

Use the restroom. Yeah, the porta potties or something like that. There's space for that Just make sure that you like let people know that you're slowing and stopping and pull over to the side Away from the volunteers you get a nice safe safe spot. Just aim yourself and to that point. Yeah Just be aware of that, but you can let people know like you should be doing on a group ride slowing Yeah, I'm slowing yell that out over your shoulder so that the people behind you should be aware They hear that that at least wakes them up a little bit

to know that you're doing that. Now, if you're getting passed by a whole bunch of fast cyclists, What do you do? You're freaking out. You gotta hold your line. Don't move. Don't change direction. Don't try to change speed. Don't slow down. Don't speed up. You wanna just hold your line and stay there and they will come past you. Yeah, it might freak you out a little bit. Some of these guys are really fast.

like screaming by with all carbon. Makes a great sound. Yeah, just hold your line. Just stay that line. Don't swerve. Don't try to get out of their way. You just need to be that stationary object that they will come around.

Speaker 1 (17:06)
I don't a prayer

And I'm a horrible swimmer. So I passed a lot of people on the bike. And yeah, it's predictability. I'm going to be on the left. I'm, you know, can I shout it, you know, 300 times? No. Yeah. But you know, if I'm on the left, it's a wide road back to predictability. You know, just let me get you let me skewch a huge pass. It's going to be a second and a half. I'm going to be in and out of your way. Yeah. Right. If if you're

Slower rider and you're not passing somebody make sure you stay to the right I mean we I know that every race director tells you that but it's critically important because that again that goes back to the that forces the fast rider behind you to have to make a decision they don't want to make which is either go on the right which is a big no-no or Have to cross over a line, which is a big no-no. So just and then if you're not passing stay to the right

Speaker 2 (18:06)
Yes,

stay to the right. Now, what do do if you're passing somebody and you've got a faster rider coming up behind you?

Speaker 1 (18:13)
keep passing, get it over and you know that fast riders got to adjust to right.

Speaker 2 (18:16)
Or

if there's distance out there and you're gonna make that pass and it's gonna be a little bit slower than what they're gonna do, you can always hesitate a little bit. You can always slow down. Once again, situational awareness to looking over your shoulder before you go over and make the pass. You're coming up on somebody and you know you're gaining on them. You need to be able to go, hey, who's behind me? Okay, here comes somebody super fast. I'm just gonna slow down just a little bit, let them go by and then I'm just gonna go after that.

Speaker 1 (18:42)
Yeah, and if I'm you know, if I'm the fast rider in that situation at the time relative it's relative, right? Yeah, so, you know, I'm ripping it, you know, 2627 or whatever, because it's a nice downhill or whatever. I see as I'm cruising at 27, watching the 330 watts.

Speaker 2 (18:54)
off.

Speaker 1 (19:03)
But I have to be situationally aware as well. It's not just, oh, I'm a slow rider and I have to look out for everything or I'm relatively new. Because I can very much see it's like, that person looks like they're going to turn it. You can see they're closing the distance at a way that, all right, I think what they're going to try to do is go to the left. Perfectly fair. just generally at that point, I pull up and.

Speaker 2 (19:12)
Yeah, it's your responsibility. Correct. Because you're the faster.

Speaker 1 (19:27)
kind of let that unfold because again it's only gonna last a couple of seconds yeah they go around and then I then I just kind of go around both of them settle down and move forward yeah ⁓

The situation awareness just isn't the person that's being passed. It's also, if you're the one that's got a good day and you're doing great, again, stay to the left on an aid station. Don't shave people. That's the worst. I hate trying to pull out after you go on a potty break and you got fast guys that are right in middle or to the right of the lane. like, give me some space here.

Speaker 2 (19:58)
You it.

Speaker 1 (19:59)
because I'm going to catch you and tell you about no. But it's just, you know, that situation where this goes both directions. Not just oh, gee, if you're slow or new or whatever, be aware. Yes. But also if everyone has everyone has to be aware if everybody's aware and everybody's sort of predictable, it makes for a really nice race. makes for a really pleasant exactly. We don't say oh, that was awesome. Except for that dude that you know, like that. And road rush.

Speaker 2 (20:17)
fun out there together. We can all have fun.

We want to avoid that.

We want the shiny side up. side down. And then on the run. Same thing as you're going into a corner. What do do when you're going into a corner? You're going into a corner, who has the line? Somebody tries to run up on the inside of you. What do you do?

Speaker 1 (20:43)
I don't run that fast. So get out of the way. I'm always the guy on the right. I'm just not that fast. Right. So I think the same thing on the bike is on run for me. It's like etiquette about, know, let the you know, they're gonna be on the left, they're gonna be running much faster. Yeah. And it's harder to hear, obviously, because, know, soft shoes and stuff. But yeah, yeah, same, same etiquette applies. Just, know, when you're on, you know, if I'm on the right, and I'm running slower, and there's an aid station on the left, you know, if it's a small and the same thing, you look around, you don't, you know, look over

And then, I want a bar. And then, you know, it's again, just look around to your point and ⁓ don't just.

Speaker 2 (21:21)
I've even chatted with some people as we're running and coming through going like, I'm going to grab the aid station. So if we're close to one another, I'm going through and I'm like, I'm going to hit the aid station. And if he says, yeah, me too, then we can go together type of thing. But if he's like, no, I'm skipping it or she's, I'm skipping it, then I'll tuck behind them so that I'm out of their way. It's more for my convenience than anything else, but it ends up helping them as well so that we don't stumble on each other and kind of go through that. ⁓

I go the same with the 180 turns that we have to do, bike or run. You're not gonna gain anything by coming in hot and taking the corner really low and diving underneath somebody and making the turn and heading back out because it spins you super wide. So you're gonna take people out or yourself out and you really gain nothing. You gain no extra time on it because you're just wasting energy at that point.

Speaker 1 (22:17)
Yeah, I mean that's

a good point. I sometimes I think the folks that I see that generally get in trouble are the folks that that watch too many pro races and thinking they're at that same level, right? Know your capability. Yeah, which is if you're going around a corner, you haven't practiced in a 180 in a while, especially on a tighter road. Oregon has a great one. It's a it's a kind of a country two lane road. Yeah, it's a 180 uphill. So it's like halfway up the hill, then you do a 180. Yeah. And again, I'm I tend to

ride in the low 20s. you can just tell the people that are having a hard time, I have to slow down. Some people may be clipping out. That's fine. So just kind of give them to your point. Let's just get around the corner. Everyone's cool. Also, if you do pass you and well, settle in and get my work done. ⁓ But yeah, mean, if you're gonna clip out or you think you do not have the capability, ⁓

⁓ To me, take it wide and sort of let those people that know what doing. And again, to your parents, slow is smooth, is fast. And if you need to do that, great, do it.

Speaker 2 (23:25)
If you can get through that corner smooth, you will be faster than if you dive bomb in on the brakes real late, like Formula One. Diving underneath, hook in the corner, trying to get back up to speed again is not gaining you anything.

Speaker 1 (23:38)
Yeah,

and

It's usually guys that do this too and the guys that do that are just you know What they do is they disrupt everything right? Because what it happens is it makes that person that clicked out incredibly nervous and they start you know, Oh, yeah around it makes the people they're just trying to you know, be cool about it It's like look buddy. I get it. You know, you're trying to get a PR today to but that corner is not where you're gonna lose your PR Yeah, right. So it's gonna be yeah, and you just if you don't look nice I mean you act like an idiot right? Nobody likes that there was like that guy and then everyone looks over like that guy and then you don't want be that right? Dude, I'm killing that corner. It's like no

Speaker 2 (23:58)
transition.

next

Speaker 1 (24:09)
No, you didn't. You just made everybody underneath.

Speaker 2 (24:12)
You're not in Formula One. You're not getting paid tens of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars to drive a...

Speaker 1 (24:19)
Yeah, Lionel Sanders

is an hour and a half in front of you. You're not gonna catch that guy. he's already crapping the latte while you're trying to figure out how to do a U-turn. Calm it down, buddy. You're gonna be fine.

Speaker 2 (24:23)
Yeah

Cool. ⁓ Dre, what else? What else did we take? Situation awareness in the race. ⁓ That's it.

Speaker 1 (24:38)
Yeah, it goes back to just everything else is practice, practice, practice.

Speaker 2 (24:43)
Do it,

do it.

Yeah, on your group rides, situationally aware. I'm gonna try to put a video together about some of the group ride things that I see that drive me crazy is why I'm not riding in a group anymore. very much. And half-wheeling is probably my biggest pet peeve with that. ⁓ Once again, be situationally aware of where you're riding in the pack, who's around you. It's great to have conversations, but practice that. Practice knowing what's around, listening for cars, listening for

other riders, ⁓ all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:17)
Do you want to get into that? Group ride?

Speaker 2 (25:19)
can.

I definitely want to do a video I need to I need to record some video with the things you shouldn't do because I don't think people are totally aware of what half wheeling is. That's the that's when you're not riding right next to somebody where your front wheel is matched up with their back wheel. Yeah, that's half wheeling somebody that is so dangerous and disrespectful. Yeah, because you're kind of pushing the pace by not pushing the pace but not taking the lead.

So you should either be right next to the rider, shoulder to shoulder with the rider in a line, or you should be right behind them, directly behind them, not slightly off, not whatever. That's like the most dangerous thing I see out there.

Speaker 1 (25:59)
We should definitely do a show just about that, because I've got thoughts.

Speaker 2 (26:02)
Yeah, we'll do that. Yeah, let's let's do that. Let's put our notes together. I'm gonna get some video so I can drop it in on a YouTube channel and and do that because that there was a really good good article I have to pull up as well. It talked about that the etiquette on group rides was disappearing and I would totally agree with that. Yeah, I would totally agree with that that everybody's out there just hammer fest at this point.

Speaker 1 (26:20)
I would...

And

hey, let us know if there's other like annoying things you want us to talk about. We can rant.

Speaker 2 (26:31)
Right. That'll be. About

trying to educate. Yeah. Prove our ride and improve our training and just get out there and be safer for everybody.

Speaker 1 (26:36)
and improve.

Yeah, I mean you could do a whole one on just swim etiquette alone. I mean, that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (26:44)
god,

Speaker 1 (26:50)
Don't get me started. I don't want to hear public pool. Please.

Speaker 2 (26:55)
Swimming in the pool. Okay. Well, we'll so those will be a couple things coming up. So shoot us in those. Let us know any other hot topics that you would like us to cover because we're going to throw our just us in here and our content a little bit as we bring in some other guests and stuff. So ⁓ got some fun stuff coming up. ⁓ Anyway, so let us know thumbs up five stars all that all that good stuff. Keep the comments coming. We really appreciate you all. Kenny, always good Tom, and everyone will

We'll catch you on the next one.

Speaker 1 (27:25)
you

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